From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:48:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <002201c7ae61$5d13fc00$d10990d4@j4f3n1> <87lkemki35.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <00b701c7aea8$72403de0$4a42fe91@j4f3n1> <1088867D-4306-4391-B0D0-E9CF971AE82B@gmail.com> <012f01c7af43$04d0a240$560690d4@j4f3n1> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181920401 3599 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2007 15:13:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "grischka" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 15 17:13:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HzDUF-0004kI-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:13:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzDUE-0000Wb-Cj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzDUA-0000WD-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzDU7-0000VZ-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzDU7-0000VW-KB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts13.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34] helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HzDU6-00049V-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13:10 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.55.143.156]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070615144850.TTBU13954.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home> for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 993F07F83; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <012f01c7af43$04d0a240$560690d4@j4f3n1> (grischka's message of "Fri\, 15 Jun 2007 13\:41\:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72960 Archived-At: > (1) keep the character-based scrolling as is, that means put up > with the inconsistent behaviour with vertical dimension > movements as David pointed out above. The only cases where the "inconsistency" of the behavior is notable and where line-based counting would fare better is when you have a page full of empty lines mixed with other part full of long dense lines. This is extremely rare. Instead, the "inconsistent" behavior is more commonly due to images (scrolling images is currently poorly supported under Emacs) or to invisible text. But feel free to try and write a patch to count based on lines and let other people try it. Stefan