From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5364: 23.1.91; execute-extended-command should do like FFAP Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87my0hgy29.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263483348 21969 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2010 15:35:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5364@debbugs.gnu.org To: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 16:35:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NVRhv-0006D2-5V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:34:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35760 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRht-00022r-Pp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:33:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRTn-000539-E8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRTi-0004zI-Ee for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39910 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRTh-0004yV-SZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:19936) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRTh-0004gt-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:17 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRTg-0001rl-Dp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRNe-0001A5-5M; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5364 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5364-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5364.12634819624451 (code B ref 5364); Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5364) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2010 15:12:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRNJ-00019j-9j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:12:41 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRNH-00019e-2r for 5364@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:12:39 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAE/DTktFxLLV/2dsb2JhbACBRdc8hDAEijY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,275,1262581200"; d="scan'208";a="53739351" Original-Received: from 69-196-178-213.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.178.213]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 14 Jan 2010 10:12:33 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 81334B464B; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:12:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87my0hgy29.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:33:34 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:13:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34324 Archived-At: SM> if you describe the cases where this repeatedly shows up for SM> you, I can come up with a way to reconcile our difference. > I sent tons in. And will keep on sending them... however as I am poorly Single examples of "text at point" don't help me understand why this happens *repeatedly*. If you could describe where those chunks of text come from and why you end up using them in M-x, maybe that would help. > organized, they end up all over the bug system. Anyway, how about: the > burden is on you to show why it is so bad... what ever it is we were It's bad to have a default in the prompt which is almost always not the one you want. People will soon send bug reports about "M-x chooses dumb defaults". > just discussing... as right now I discovered C-x i (insert-file) > doesn't even know that I want to insert e.g., /etc/motd even though my > cursor is right next to it and I have FFAP turned on. Anyway, that's all > that I'm still good for these days, alerting you fellows to such > shortcomings. Yes, I did want to insert a file right next to its name today. In the pretest code, we've solved this problem by making M-n bring up the "file at point" if you have ffap loaded (IIUC). This should work with all file-reading commands, contrary to FFAP itself which only works for the commands it redefined. So after C-x i, try M-n. Stefan