From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:05:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30298845.656931270806476838.JavaMail.www@wwinf4631> <4BBF0C6C.7000909@swipnet.se> <87ljcwaxfv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4BC016DA.60400@swipnet.se> <87d3y63gzt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4BC1EAB2.6080900@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271002271 7705 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2010 16:11:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 11 18:11:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0zkZ-0007Wo-8e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:11:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41444 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0zkY-0000q2-Hf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O0zfI-00038j-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56287 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0zfH-00036g-9m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:05:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0zfF-0007df-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:05:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:24798 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0zfF-0007dS-HN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:05:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAIOQwUtMCqWu/2dsb2JhbACbRHK1eoUMBItG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,185,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="60625630" Original-Received: from 76-10-165-174.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.165.174]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2010 12:05:33 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9C46A7F1B; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:05:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC1EAB2.6080900@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:28:50 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123481 Archived-At: > Mode specific actions to tabs? > I do get a certain impression that people who propose > non-switch-pane-of-content uses for tabs are really looking for just more > toolbars - rows of buttons. Indeed. The current tool-bar has some serious limitations for tabs: - the appearance isn't right. - no text. - can't have two "tool bars". If we could have more flexible tool-bars (more control over the appearance and content, more control over the possible key-bindings, ...) and if we could have more of them and placed differently (e.g. anywhere in the window tree), then that would subsume the need for tabs and the neds for extra header-lines. Stefan