From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: word syntax/umlauts emacs 23 vs 22 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:15:02 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291870158 12569 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2010 04:49:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 04:49:18 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 05:49:12 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQYRM-0001ra-Ko for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 05:49:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQYRM-0004sn-2e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:49:12 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed-0.progon.net!progon.net!newsfeed.ision.net!newsfeed2.easynews.net!ision!news.on-luebeck.de!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Injection-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="NyIsCkCnPLYYoqFw7HUBww"; logging-data="23346"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18c6mL7elMDDeBum3DYsNxk" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iTJaH6SWuyWQFnUJRC54ay/9lf8= sha1:IeZqsH7+7fYTGnA6XhdwrfubHuM= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu comp.emacs:100592 gnu.emacs.help:181744 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:76679 Archived-At: > emacs-23: > character: ü (252, #o374, #xfc) > preferred charset: eight-bit (Raw bytes 128-255) This character is not really the "u mit umlaut" but rather it's the byte 252 (FC in hexidecimal), which happens to be displayed as ü for reasons I'm not sure I understand. > emacs-22: > character: ü (252, #o374, #xfc) > charset: eight-bit-graphic (8-bit graphic char (0xA0..0xFF)) Same thing here. I.e. your Emacs-22 also gets this file wrong. The only difference between Emacs-22 and Emacs-23 is that Emacs-23 doesn't pretend that bytes between 128 and 255 are latin-1 chars. The right fix is to try and figure out why the char is "byte nb 252" rather than "u mit umlaut". Try to look at that file with "emacs -Q", to see if you can reproduce the problem there. Stefan PS: maybe you're using Emacs in unibyte mode, which was a bad idea in Emacs-22, is deprecated in Emacs-23 and won't exist any more in Emacs-24.