From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] setting indentation styles via `c-file-style' fails to actually change indentation Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:17:50 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87pqngewwp.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305677885 19069 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2011 00:18:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nix Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 18 02:17:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QMUSb-0002W2-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 02:17:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46652 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QMUSb-0002Mv-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QMUSY-0002MS-2Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QMUSX-0008Ku-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:58918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QMUSX-0008Kq-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:17:53 -0400 Original-Received: from 213-159-126-200.fibertel.com.ar ([200.126.159.213]:44013 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QMUSW-0001BE-UT; Tue, 17 May 2011 20:17:53 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 250F066131; Tue, 17 May 2011 21:17:50 -0300 (ART) In-Reply-To: <87pqngewwp.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (nix@esperi.org.uk's message of "Wed, 18 May 2011 00:21:10 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139474 Archived-At: > Certainly the state of play before this change works worse, but that's > about as confident as I'm willing to be. Thanks for taking the trouble to track down your problem and provide a fix. I'll let Alan check the actual change and decide if it's safe enough. But I just want to take the opportunity to say that all this CC style business is much too complex for its own sake, and as a result we've seen and keep seeing new problems that require additional hacks on top of hacks to try and "fix" things. I don't have the time/energy to devote to cleaning this up, but it really needs a rethink and redesign so that we can simplify the whole thing, thus removing warts rather than working around them. Stefan