From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Put C-h N (news) in org-mode Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:22:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346592159 32617 80.91.229.3 (2 Sep 2012 13:22:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 13:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "T.V. Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 02 15:22:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T8A8N-0004b3-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 15:22:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8A8K-00039P-Nv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:22:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46914) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8A8I-00039D-3a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8A8H-0007OJ-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:35676) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8A8H-0007OA-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:22:33 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FxKEe/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kLYdvBboJkEQDozOBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="197299424" Original-Received: from 69-196-161-30.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.161.30]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Sep 2012 09:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2C55559407; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 09:22:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Sat, 1 Sep 2012 19:22:53 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152950 Archived-At: > Subject line pretty much says it all -- > Old-style outline mode is suboptimal compared to org-mode -- > and worse, launching C-h N and trying outline-based > nav fails. I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but I'd like to hear some more concrete reasons why the difference would be good (and why for those particular files). E.g. an alternative is to move some of Org's functionality into Outline, or even make outline-mode into an alias for org-mode. Stefan