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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: trunk r115265: * lisp/vc/vc-dispatcher.el (vc-log-edit): Setup the Summary&Author headers.
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 12:04:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwveh5zcfm3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5298AA77.4060009@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:53:43 +0200")

>> The intention was to remind people that they should think about who's
>> the author.  Indeed, it's particularly useful for us but less so for
>> many other projects.
> Isn't it too late to remind when the log-edit buffer is open? Normally, you
> create ChangeLog entries first (and they should include the right author),
> only then open the vc-dir buffer, mark the files and then see the
> log-edit buffer.

I think of this "reminding" as a process rather than a one-time event,
so I'm not too worried about it being "too late".
It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing, I think.

>> Maybe we can set it as a .dir-locals.el customization.
> It would be better, but since dir-locals overrides personal customizations,
> it wouldn't be ideal either, as far as I'm concerned.

Having an extra empty "Author:" field might hurt your aesthetic
sensibility, but I don't see how it could be really harmful, so I think
it's perfectly OK even if it's hard to override (and of course, it can
still be overridden, if you're sufficiently motivated).

>> The RFC822 format does add features, since there are a few other special
>> headers (Author, Fixes, Amend, maybe a few more).
> True.  But is it relevant to the question of whether to include the Summary
> and Author headers by default?

What would you include, instead?

> Another problem with Summary, I believe, is that it's often unused in Emacs
> commit messages.

IIUC that's a problem in Emacs's commit messages, not in vc-log-edit,
and the presence of the "Summary:" header might actually encourage
people to change their habit.

>> We should also use some of the message-mode commands to move inside the
>> header, as was suggested here recently.
> Not sure which thread, or which commands you mean.  But `C-e' works well
> enough for moving after "Summary:".

C-a could move to "right after the :".

>> Indeed, that needs to be fixed.  It's easy to fix when we kill the
>> *vc-log* buffer, but it might be trickier to fix when you just
>> bury-it :(
> Since bury-buffer doesn't have a default binding in log-edit, I think that's
> not much of a problem. But we can follow Magit's (and message-mode's)
> example and create a command that would do the burying the smart way (and
> bind it to C-c C-k).

Sounds good.

>> Maybe log-edit-show-files shouldn't be in the default log-edit-hook.
> I'd rather we fix it than hide it.

OK.

> Another approach would be to instead of creating a separate buffer and
> window, output its text at the bottom of the log-edit buffer.  And
> either make it a read-only-not-real text, or comment it out somehow
> and remove that section before the commit is made.

These could work as well, indeed.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-29 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1VlqjS-0006O3-Fn@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2013-11-29  4:39 ` trunk r115265: * lisp/vc/vc-dispatcher.el (vc-log-edit): Setup the Summary&Author headers Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 13:33   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 14:53     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 17:04       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-11-29 22:37         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-30  2:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 16:02             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-01 21:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02  2:40                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-02 13:53                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 23:02                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-03  0:56                       ` Leo Liu
2013-12-03  3:06                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04  0:38                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-03  2:17                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-03  3:09                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04  0:43                         ` Dmitry Gutov

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