From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Elpa packages and macro dependencies. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:04:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fvekh7i4.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87iojed7iv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87egu2d00r.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413839111 15639 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2014 21:05:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 20 23:05:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XgK8U-00084Y-2q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 23:05:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46819 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgK8T-0006Kd-La for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgK8H-0006KV-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:04:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgK8A-00036v-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:04:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:30695) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgK8A-00036r-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:04:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="94676988" Original-Received: from 69-165-143-59.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.143.59]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 20 Oct 2014 17:04:41 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 77F293EBF; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:04:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87egu2d00r.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:16:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175615 Archived-At: > Clever advises or aliases the user has set up that change what gets > compiled. Another possibility are manually loaded packages that > misguide feature checks at compile time. The old cl macros were a rich > source of potential problems if you weren't careful, but the advent of > cl-lib has made things much cleaner. I can think of many different hypothetical ways it can fail, indeed, but I'm wondering about actual cases. Stefan