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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bad moves with xref-find-definitions
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:26:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvegn69upt.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zj5vm8h3.fsf@gmail.com> (Vitalie Spinu's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2015 13:31:36 +0200")

> Backend has to figure out the "thing" anyways. From there building
> "textual representation" and passing back to xref is a triviality.

Apparently not, because the part of the backend which "figures it out"
might be in an external tool which simply doesn't offer the option to
build a textual representation for it.

> Also, you have to provide completions and textual representation of on
> C-u anyways.

In case the backend is as described above, the C-u path will lead to
suboptimal results, indeed, because it'll have to fallback on
other techniques.

> What do you currently do if there are multiple matching definitions of
> the "thing-at-point"? Prompt?

Yes, in the *xref* buffer.

> All I was trying to say is that tags are commonly useful alongside
> dynamic backends. Blindly replacing tags with an even very good
> backend is not the right direction IMW. Expecting from end users to
> solve this problem with add-function :before is unacceptable if there
> are way to fix it at Emacs level. 

I'm not talking about the end-user using add-function, but about the
major mode's xref's backend doing so.

> Different backends can figure different "things-at-point". It would be
> wise to try back-ends in turn, just like completion-at-point-functions
> does.

If the major mode adds the backends via (add-function :before-until ...)
that's exactly what will happen.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-27  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-23 15:07 Bad moves with xref-find-definitions Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 16:25   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 17:42   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 18:49     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 19:07       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 18:56     ` João Távora
2015-04-25 23:50       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 11:51         ` xref backends for elisp-related modes Was: " João Távora
2015-04-26 13:56           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 14:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 11:06             ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 11:41               ` João Távora
2015-04-28 11:59                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 15:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:45                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 16:01                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 13:27                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 21:28                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 12:35                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 15:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:47                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-28 16:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-29  6:55               ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 12:40                 ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 13:01                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 15:30                     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-29 17:09                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 12:47                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-29 13:04                   ` Helmut Eller
2015-04-29 13:12                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27  2:20           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 19:11     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 20:43       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26  3:37         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26  6:38           ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-04-26 18:41             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27 19:36               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-04-28  1:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 11:30               ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 10:44           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 13:14             ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 15:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 16:23               ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 17:51                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 20:56                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-27 21:57                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26  3:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-26 11:31       ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 14:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-26 15:12           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 15:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-26 15:20         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26 16:01           ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26 17:26             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-27  2:26         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-04-25 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-25 20:34   ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-25 21:44     ` Vitalie Spinu
2015-04-26  0:20     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-26  0:28       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-28 15:31       ` Vitalie Spinu

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