From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Blink Cursor mode is off by default Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <838t7lqnf0.fsf@gnu.org> <83zi01p6th.fsf@gnu.org> <13a2189b89d06be494cbc21561713d5d.squirrel@dancol.org> <83o9ggpwfs.fsf@gnu.org> <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> <5659356aea4cdccd07e28e441c1ae98b.squirrel@dancol.org> <83in6oowur.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528818645 5180 195.159.176.226 (12 Jun 2018 15:50:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:50:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 12 17:50:41 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSlZB-0001Fj-8V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:50:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57022 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSlbI-0007Wr-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47107) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSlb6-0007VV-OR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSlb3-0000h1-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:52:40 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:42638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSlb3-0000gW-IN; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:52:37 -0400 Original-Received: from lechazo.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id w5CFr1VF024156; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: by lechazo.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 71574606BB; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:52:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83in6oowur.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:20:12 +0300") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6306=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6306> : inlines <6691> : streams <1789480> : uri <2657005> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226261 Archived-At: > Anyway, I consider the problem with failed initialization of cursor > blinking serious enough to be in need of fixing. So I installed the > second re-evaluation of custom-delayed-init-variables, and also added > some blurb to the docs that advises against putting in the early init > file what doesn't have to be there. Good, thanks. > I consider the problem with clobbering user customizations in > early-init.el a secondary one, especially since we already do that > with one or two variables anyway, although it would be good to fix > that, of course. I think in the case of blink-cursor-mode, that mode should simply be t by default, point, with no need for reevaluation. That t value would simply have no effect in those cases where we can't (or don't know how to) make it effective (e.g. ms-dos, tty, noninteractive). Sorry, no sample patch this time ;-) Stefan