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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Failing to GC killed buffers considered harmful
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:52:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwveet8jwu5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBfyffDeA998h0WaLxr=QgP-fabR+VgYv+uP+xh0unJEyw@mail.gmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:58:20 +0000")

>> The patch below seems to work.
> But it changes gcstat definitions (killed buffers are no longer
> counted towards total_buffers).

Indeed (instead all the `struct buffer` objects are now included in the
count of (pseudo)vectors).  I find this of no consequence and I don't
think the GC algorithm should adapt to the gcstat (it should be the
other way around).

>> The only worrisome part I think is that `live_buffer_holding` allowed
>> pointers into buffer objects, whereas `live_vector_p` only treats
>> pointers to the beginning of the object as a valid reference.
> Uh, I don't see how the second part of that statement is true.

Indeed it's not.  I had forgotten that Paul had also changed the
live_vector_holding code in the same way.  Great!

>> Not sure why buffers would be more likely to have valid pointers into
>> them (and can't remember discussions about that either),
> buffer text.

The buffer text is not stored within the `struct buffer` object, so no.
But that's irrelevant since I was confused anyway.

>> so I assume the difference was not important (it just happened to be
>> easier to support that for buffers).
> Which difference, I still don't understand.

You do ;-)

> Next, it might be nice to have anonymous buffers that are
> garbage-collected automatically and don't need to be killed. *ducks*

Did I hear something or was it just the wind?


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-31 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-29 14:23 Failing to GC killed buffers considered harmful Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 18:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:06     ` Daniel Colascione
2020-03-29 19:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:46 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-29 18:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:07     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-29 19:12       ` Daniel Colascione
2020-03-29 19:25         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-29 19:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 15:36             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-30 15:53               ` dancol
2020-03-30 17:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 17:02   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 18:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 18:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 19:14         ` Daniel Colascione
2020-03-30 19:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 14:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 21:57         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:58       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-31 16:52         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-03-31 18:23           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-31 19:20             ` Stefan Monnier

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