From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:26:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878rnmwlqv.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27431"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:c7MoQOGz1SElRaVulEuk6B5YFI8= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 18 04:27:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oOVFd-00071c-CD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:27:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49330 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOVFb-0004V4-Qm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:27:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOVFD-0004Ug-3H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:26:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:54078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oOVFA-0007Na-8n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:26:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oOVF8-0006VT-4M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:26:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138914 Archived-At: > P.S. note: Sioyek aims to reconstruct hyperlinks to references and > equations in text even for old papers. That's awesome and very useful, > but unfortunately it seems to depend on the quality of the file, as > sometimes it doesn't work. Here my need for a replacement. FWIW, I mostly use `doc-view-mode` to read PDFs. In many ways it's very limited, but I like the fact that I can crop to the particular part of the page(s) I'm interested in and that's preserved as I move between pages (some other readers have an auto-crop feature which is even better), and more importantly I can do `C-x 5 2` to see several pages at the same time (I very often keep a frame/window displaying the bibliography, but other times I use that to display a figure while I read the corresponding description from another page, or to display several figures next to each other, ...). I tried Sioyek and it's nice, but not sufficiently nicer to make me change :-) Have you tried `pdf-tools`? AFAICT it has all the advantages of `doc-view-mode` but without its many limitations. It's truly nice. I don't use it often enough because all too often my main Emacs is in a state of hacking that breaks my externally installed packages, so I'm still used to using `doc-view-mode` as my main driver, but the more time passes the more I find it too limited. Stefan