From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade' Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:31:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2726a957-a2a8-3b89-8930-2d620d83491e@alphapapa.net> <83sfd7c1v1.fsf@gnu.org> <875ya3euof.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1248"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Adam Porter , Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 62750@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 10 16:33:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plsaK-000AeB-3z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 16:33:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plsZs-0002BQ-G2; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plsZr-0002An-Ie for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plsZr-0004nP-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plsZq-00061F-VD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:33:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62750 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62750-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62750.168113712323035 (code B ref 62750); Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62750) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2023 14:32:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35615 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plsYt-0005zS-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:34819) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plsYr-0005yx-WC for 62750@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7AA661000C4; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6B2411000BE; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:31:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1681137115; bh=NiXV2OcFoieLTNJoEOX8IehtuTkY7zMRSL9y6VStSBc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=EOpcJsgSv68NOCTzmP9uWJnX+347us+EMLZqXR9XWb01Nh08pc3LmTpO6vBeoSZaa fCI8ktURimNAt9TMQlhDQEFCheY+yBseN52Xolpg/2dCrFEoGeAD/WPTavM4OaY35I PHkZjrnZQtmGbUrr0Ycdu8T6E8reXu72OrF+v6FvH5suLlmMgHbLBrwpSUgN6UYqeI hwIngPkpMI4ws/VJ7yk4/HD2fUW+FhubvLXdMNPPHyP/o8UWkCvzMFnnLt7sS9PIXc 2AmuTQwXnJ+qfEJvNHIVvIJokmkJtsF98gzKAAkpaqnRBhDosYscq7TRQdxZPxz1oC 5T7ybAqFCY8hA== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.217.176]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34AB3120D76; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:31:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <875ya3euof.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 10 Apr 2023 13:25:04 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259583 Archived-At: > I don't think that "update" and "upgrade" have that clear of a semantic > difference in practice to necessitate a renaming. I'd tend to agree. Stefan