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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How are Windows users supposed to print the PostScript refcards?
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:04:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd4xu6jl5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v9wsw2bb6x.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat\, 11 Aug 2007 12\:46\:46 +0200")

>>> How about deleting the postscript files and replacing them with the
>>> pdfs?
>> 
>> Note sure which part of your answer was ironic :-) Seriously, adding PDF
>> is an idea we can consider ; AFAIK /normal/ people tend to use PDF over
>>  PS. Is deleting PS files such a harm ?

> I think adding *.pdf is fine (only ~ 1 MB) for a real benefit of many
> users.  I didn't suggest to remove the PS versions, because on typical
> GNU/Linux systems, the PDF would be converted to PS during the
> printing process (e.g. with CUPS filters) so I'd rather keep the PS
> files.  If size disk space is important, we may gzip the PS files like
> we do for *.el.  Older Unix or GNU/Linux systems might not even be
> able to print PDF while they can handle PS fine.

PS files can be generated just fine on those older systems.  And given that
on OT1H xpdf has worked fine for many years now, and OTOH PDFs are
sufficiently widespread that anyone whose system can't print PDFs will have
encountered many other more serious problems, I think that removing PS is
very reasonable.

PDF can be rendered faster than PS, is generally safer than PS (by virtue
of not being Turing-complete), is generally smaller as well, and can be
handled (e.g. searched) more easily.

The only downside I know of PDFs is that the tools to manipulate them
(e.g. put them in 2up or copy/paste some part of it) are rather lacking
in the Free Software world.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-11 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08 20:37 How are Windows users supposed to print the PostScript refcards? Reiner Steib
2007-08-08 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-09  5:24   ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-09 19:46   ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-09 23:11     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-08-09 23:25     ` Chong Yidong
2007-08-09 23:56       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-10  2:27         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-08-10  9:53           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-10 13:51             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-08-10 14:22               ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-10 17:45                 ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-10 14:37               ` Jan Djärv
2007-08-10 14:49                 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-10 19:34                 ` jemarch
2007-08-11 10:46         ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-11 18:04           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-08-11 19:23             ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-13  0:36           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-13  1:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-13 10:56               ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-16 10:04                 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-17  0:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-17  8:35                     ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-17  8:57                       ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-19  9:24                         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-19 10:28                           ` Sven Joachim
2007-08-19 16:14                             ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-17 20:17                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-20  2:18                       ` Glenn Morris
2007-08-20  4:18                         ` Miles Bader
2007-08-20  9:58                         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-23 10:00                           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-26 21:32                           ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-08-13  7:48       ` Glenn Morris
2007-08-09  3:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-08-09  5:51   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-08-09  8:26     ` Mathias Dahl
2007-08-09  8:38   ` Frank Schmitt
2007-08-09 19:29   ` Reiner Steib
2007-08-09 22:27     ` Eli Zaretskii

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