From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-toggle-read-only mishandles CVS ro file in presence of CVSREAD=1 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87od5q9kbi.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87prq5yi0n.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87lk0ttxl0.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214408924 9157 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2008 15:48:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 17:49:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KBXFP-0001j0-AA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:49:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33680 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBXEZ-0003wc-Tl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBXEV-0003wM-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBXER-0003vw-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44776 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBXER-0003vt-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:27 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:15963 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KBXEN-0005bI-Fg; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoEABgFYkhFxIdG/2dsb2JhbACBW7B1gW4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,703,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="23190641" Original-Received: from 69-196-135-70.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.135.70]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2008 11:48:22 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2E65B7F1C; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lk0ttxl0.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:10:03 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99930 Archived-At: >> I say we just get rid of it and good riddance. >>=20 >> If/when we do that, many people's ~/.emacs will grow a >> (unless (fboundp 'vc-toggle-read-only) > Where "many" =E2=89=8A 3 > On the other hand, the number of people who will avoid being confused > and annoyed by the stupidity of vc-toggle-read-only will be _vastly_ > greater. I do not understand the discussion: AFAIK, Emacs-22 already changed C-x C-q to run toggle-read-only rather than vc-toggle-read-only. AFAIK vc-toggle-read-only was only still used by bs.el and buff-menu.el (both of which I've just fixed to use toggle-read-only). Stefan