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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: file-truename, convert-standard-filename
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:38:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd40g3417.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CBCE1B91725342F29EDB05C1E433A34C@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:12:05 -0800")

> THEORETICALLY, one _always_ needs c-s-f, unless either (1) you know
> that the file that is named exists or (2) you know _all_ of the
> following: (2a) the file system being used, (2b) the file name being
> used, and (2c) that the given file name is a valid one for the given
> file system.

No, I think it should be more restrictive: you should use c-s-f if and
only if the file name might not be valid on the current system, and
where it would be a bug if that file name turned out to be invalid on
the current system.

In most cases, the first condition is already false: you generally get
file names which you know are valid on the current system.  Of the
remining cases, most fail the second condition: for most files that may
not be valid, it's perfectly OK to signal an error if it turns out to be
invalid, because it was a user-error to use that file name.

So yes, the cases where c-s-f are needed are rare and mostly "internal".


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-08  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-05 17:31 file-truename, convert-standard-filename Drew Adams
2010-02-05 18:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-05 18:33   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-05 19:45     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-05 19:49       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-05 20:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-05 20:18       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06  1:10       ` Miles Bader
2010-02-05 23:51   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-05 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 23:51   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-06  0:17     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06  8:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 16:55         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06 19:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 19:20             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06  9:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 15:33       ` Drew Adams
2010-02-06 19:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 20:46           ` Drew Adams
2010-02-06 21:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 23:12               ` Drew Adams
2010-02-07  4:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-08  1:38                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-02-08  2:46                   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-26 18:33                 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-26 19:12                   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-26 19:35                     ` Davis Herring
2010-02-26 20:25                       ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-06  3:52 MON KEY
2010-02-06  8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <d2afcfda1002061814nc3e178fl5d93e21ea6bae7b5@mail.gmail.com>
2010-02-07  2:16     ` MON KEY
     [not found]     ` <83wrypelms.fsf@gnu.org>
2010-02-07 23:26       ` MON KEY
2010-02-08  0:28         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-08  4:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <d2afcfda1002091330y53017b24w5e6bdf3c3d131a97@mail.gmail.com>
2010-02-09 21:32             ` MON KEY
2010-02-09 21:59               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-09 22:32             ` Eli Zaretskii

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