From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sk7z571u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <81674B067AF84670A2EDDB0178E0C0CC@us.oracle.com> <877hpa68ys.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87634u3vqn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268919759 14052 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 13:42:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 14:42:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsFzb-0000pM-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:42:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44500 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsFza-0003iq-QH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsFzU-0003hg-E4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49066 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsFzT-0003gy-38 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsFzR-00070O-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:64776 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsFzP-0006ze-D4; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:19 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMPKoUtFpZMX/2dsb2JhbACbLHS5b4R5BIsb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,267,1267419600"; d="scan'208";a="58535923" Original-Received: from 69-165-147-23.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.147.23]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6CD9F7FF4; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:42:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87634u3vqn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:00:16 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.93 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122159 Archived-At: >> But this lacks crucial info about transient-mark-mode: if you don't have >> transient-mark-mode enabled, the above example will not be affected by >> delsel or any of its siblings. > delete-selection-mode is an interactive autoloaded Lisp function in > `delsel.el'. > When Delete Selection mode is enabled, Transient Mark mode is also > enabled I think you stopped reading a bit too early, I went on to explain that when t-m-m is enabled, delsel still doesn't make any significant difference: OTOH if you do have t-m-m enabled, then you'll probably want to use C-u C-x C-x rather than C-x C-x and also use C-SPC C-SPC (so as not to activate the mark, to avoid spuriously highlighting the region while you're moving around), in which case again delsel will have no impact. -- Stefan