From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:16:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291828088 24755 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 17:08:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:08:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 18:08:04 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQNUp-0006uW-Uh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:08:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37549 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQNUp-0000Hj-9r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:08:03 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe17.iad.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hionauHw6rDBa/3qNFhjVlQVcaQ= Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@UsenetServer.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:16:11 UTC Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178649 comp.emacs:99906 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75669 Archived-At: >> Having used Emacs for some 30 years myself, I always expect a few >> surprises with a new major version of Emacs. > Why should users expect surprises? To spice things up, of course. >> I also discovered that there is an Options -> Customize -> New Options >> menu > I turned off that stupid menu years ago. I need every screen line. I want > to use emacs, not MS Word. C-mouse-3 shows you the menu, even when it's not displayed. >> As I said before, the line-move-visual setting has been a complex decision >> for the developers. > And they screwed it up. Yup, big time, Stefan