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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:31:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd3mb3fw8.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1fa184d7-7e4e-44b3-bba8-f2c94929f657@o7g2000prn.googlegroups.com

> For Emacs (and such) this may be the way to go and is welcome.
> For git (and such) however it may be preferable to have generic diff/
> merge plugin capability; specifically for 'xml-container' formats like
> odt and docx  but also more generically.

Versioning documents in formats like odt is indeed a different issue:
for diffs and merges you don't want to do it at the line-level of
course, but neither do you necessarily want to do it at the XML level
itself: maybe automatic merging can be done at the XML level, but when
conflicts or diffs need to be shown to users, they have to be shown in
terms that the user can understand and most users have no idea about
odt's underlying XML representation other than that it exists.  So you
need something like OpenOffice to do the diff for you.

> Personal note: I use nted
> http://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/nted/nted.xhtml
> to enter music and I have a hell of a time versioning and diffing.

Right: since this uses WYSIWYG you basically get the same problem: only
nted can do the diff and merge-conflict display in a way that can make
sense to the user.
If you care about revision control, you're generally better off without
WYSIWYG (I tend to think you're better off without it in any
circumstance, but that's a different discussion ;-).


        Stefan


  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-28 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-27  8:33 What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature of Emacs? Le Wang
2011-01-27  9:29 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-01-27 12:03 ` Wang Lei
2011-01-27 14:13   ` suvayu ali
2011-01-27 14:12 ` Ken Goldman
2011-01-27 18:11 ` Erik Iverson
     [not found] ` <mailman.0.1296137574.27610.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-27 22:23   ` Joe Fineman
2011-01-28  6:40     ` Jason Rumney
2011-01-28 18:25       ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <mailman.12.1296239161.1176.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-22 14:49         ` Xah Lee
2011-02-22 16:27           ` despen
2011-02-23  3:52             ` Glenn Morris
2011-02-22 19:47           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-23  0:21             ` Xah Lee
2011-02-23  2:06             ` Cthun
2011-02-23  2:33               ` Rafe Kettler
2011-02-23  5:19                 ` Cthun
2011-02-23  7:07                   ` Tim X
2011-02-23 13:28                     ` Keyboarding [Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs?] Xah Lee
2011-02-23 15:39                     ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-02-23 19:50                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-02-23 22:57                       ` Tim X
2011-02-24  0:04                         ` trebol55555
2011-02-24  3:48                         ` Cthun
2011-02-23  9:23                   ` Brendan Halpin
2011-02-23 17:15                   ` Rafe Kettler
2011-02-23 18:33                     ` Ilya Zakharevich
2011-02-23 18:47                       ` Deniz Dogan
2011-02-23 22:08                       ` Cthun
2011-02-23 22:07                     ` Cthun
2011-02-23 23:46                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2011-02-24  3:53                         ` Cthun
2011-02-24  3:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-24  7:06                       ` Leo
2011-02-24 15:58                       ` Richard Riley
2011-02-24 17:20                         ` despen
2011-02-24 14:43                     ` fortunatus
2011-02-24 16:43                       ` Xah Lee
2011-02-24 17:48                         ` Eric Schulte
2011-02-24 18:38                           ` Cthun
2011-02-24 23:14                           ` Xah Lee
2011-02-25  1:44                             ` javax.swing.JSnarker
2011-02-25  7:16                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-25 12:11                               ` rusi
2011-02-25 18:54                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-25 23:19                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-02-26  4:01                                   ` rusi
2011-02-24 18:37                       ` javax.swing.JSnarker
2011-02-24 22:04                       ` Deniz Dogan
2011-02-23  7:16                 ` D Herring
2011-02-23  5:22               ` Tim X
2011-02-23 15:13                 ` Cthun
2011-02-23 18:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-23 19:22                   ` Jason Earl
2011-02-23 22:18                     ` Cthun
2011-02-23 23:54                       ` Jason Earl
2011-02-24  4:05                         ` Cthun
2011-02-24  5:19                   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-24  5:38                     ` Todd Wylie
2011-02-25  2:48                       ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-25 18:43                 ` Jim Janney
2011-02-26  6:05                   ` Cthun
2011-02-26  7:21                     ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-26 20:13                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-27  6:21                       ` Cthun
2011-02-27  8:08                         ` David Kastrup
2011-02-27 15:28                           ` Cthun
2011-02-27 15:46                             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-27 15:51                               ` Cthun
2011-02-27 17:28                                 ` Julian Bradfield
2011-02-27 19:52                                   ` Cthun
2011-02-27 20:41                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-27 21:02                                       ` Cthun
2011-02-27 20:59                                     ` Robert D. Crawford
2011-02-27 20:58                                   ` Tim Bradshaw
2011-02-27 21:02                                     ` Cthun
2011-02-27 21:12                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-02-27 22:02                                         ` Cthun
2011-02-28  3:51                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-28  9:53                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-28 18:04                                               ` Cthun
2011-02-28 19:03                                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
     [not found]                                                 ` <mailman.2.1298919859.18999.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-28 19:41                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-28 20:04                                                 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01  0:06                                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01  0:14                                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01  0:16                                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01  0:28                                                         ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01  1:49                                                           ` Sean Sieger
2011-03-01  9:27                                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01 13:52                                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:51                                                         ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 23:43                                                           ` Cthun
2011-03-02  8:22                                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-02 14:33                                                               ` Cthun
2011-03-02 21:51                                                                 ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02 22:20                                                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-02 23:54                                                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-03  0:05                                                                       ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-03  0:06                                                                         ` Jason Earl
2011-03-03  0:12                                                                           ` Cthun
2011-03-03 10:04                                                                           ` Marco Antoniotti
2011-03-03 10:21                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-03 13:43                                                                               ` Cthun
2011-03-03 13:42                                                                             ` Cthun
2011-03-02  8:39                                                             ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02 14:35                                                               ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-01 12:57                                                     ` Antony
2011-02-28 18:02                                             ` Cthun
2011-02-27 16:05                             ` Perry Smith
2011-02-27 17:22                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2011-02-27 18:16                                 ` Joe Riel
2011-02-27 23:17                               ` PJ Weisberg
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.8.1298827366.31652.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-28  3:58                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-28  4:37                                   ` rusi
2011-02-28 23:31                                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-03-01  2:43                                       ` rusi
2011-02-28 19:41                                   ` Uday Reddy
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.3.1298822767.31652.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-27 17:11                               ` rusi
2011-02-27 20:52                         ` Tim Bradshaw
2011-02-27 20:59                           ` Cthun
2011-02-27  0:08                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2011-02-27  6:21                       ` Cthun
2011-02-28 11:38                     ` Jim Janney
2011-02-28 12:45                       ` Petter Gustad
2011-02-28 18:11                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01  4:32                         ` Jim Janney
2011-03-01  6:18                           ` rusi
2011-03-01 14:09                             ` Cthun
2011-03-01 14:05                           ` Cthun
2011-03-01 14:21                             ` Mario Lassnig
2011-03-01 15:02                               ` Cthun
2011-03-01 15:06                                 ` rusi
2011-03-01 15:07                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01 15:26                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01 16:43                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-01 21:20                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01 21:24                                         ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 21:33                                           ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:17                                             ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 23:25                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-03-01 15:12                                 ` Mario Lassnig
2011-03-01 21:21                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01 21:23                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02  8:11                                     ` Mario Lassnig
2011-03-02 15:05                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-10 22:56                                     ` Susan Calvin
2011-03-11  0:07                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01 14:31                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01 15:06                               ` Cthun
2011-03-01 17:39                             ` Jim Janney
2011-03-01 21:30                               ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:19                                 ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 22:37                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:47                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 23:46                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-02  0:02                                         ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02  1:17                                           ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-02 15:08                                           ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-02  5:52                                         ` Bot Tester
2011-03-02  8:42                                         ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02 15:10                                           ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-02 15:54                                             ` Bastien
2011-03-04  0:52                                           ` Cthun-bot discussion Peter Keller
2011-03-04  2:43                                             ` Cthun
2011-03-04  5:55                                             ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-04 18:00                                               ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-04 21:31                                                 ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-05  8:39                                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-02  0:36                                 ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Jim Janney
2011-03-02 15:06                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-02 19:52                                     ` Jim Janney
2011-03-02 20:01                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-02  1:00                                 ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature of Emacs? Steve
2011-03-02  5:34                                   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-23  7:01               ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-28 12:42           ` Sean Sieger
     [not found]           ` <mailman.6.1298896994.11648.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-28 14:16             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-28 14:47               ` Sean Sieger

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