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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: joakim@verona.se
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: FFI again
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:39:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd2nimkcq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3eh7z5owf.fsf@exodia.verona.se> (joakim@verona.se's message of "Sun, 06 Oct 2013 00:33:20 +0200")

> The author of the sxemacs libffi interface offered to provide it for
> emacs some time ago on this list, as I recall.
> If that doesnt pan out I dont think writing an emacs libffi interface
> from scratch is too hard.

I don't remember it being mentioned.  I do vaguely remember someone
(Lars, maybe) mentioning that it can be a lot easier to write C code
that massages the lib calls to make them into subrs (as is done for
gnutls and libxml) than it is to write code for something like an FFI.

I personally don't have any experience either way.  But I think that
a good benchmark for an FFI is to make our libxml and libgnutls
code use it.

> I really don't like this idea.  You either force users to have the Emacs
> headers, Emacs import library, and a C compiler available to install a
> package or you provide pre-compiled binaries for popular platforms and
> create an ABI versioning nightmare.

The plan would be to require headers and a C compiler.
Precompiled libraries could be considered for the Windows platform, but
only if we can keep the versioning nightmare in check.

> The routines declared in lisp.h do not form stable interface.

Indeed, we'd need to define a slightly more stable API.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-06 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-05 16:11 FFI again Stefan Monnier
2013-10-05 16:24 ` joakim
2013-10-05 22:18   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-05 22:33     ` joakim
2013-10-06 16:39       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-10-06 16:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-06 18:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-06 19:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-07  1:41         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-07  3:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07  4:34             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-07  4:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 22:14                 ` Andy Moreton
2013-10-07 22:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-08  6:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-08  2:22                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-08  2:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-08  5:33                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-08  7:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-05 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-05 23:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-06 19:19 ` Richard Stallman

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