From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:37:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415655503 24774 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2014 21:38:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:38:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 22:38:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwfA-00072m-Pg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:38:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45200 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwfA-0000Ws-8A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:38:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49893) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnwes-0000Wi-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:38:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnwem-0007hZ-4t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:37:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:5847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnwem-0007hV-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:37:52 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIMAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw5Ugw6GfsQIh0sEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWKAsLNBIUGA2IbwkNy2UBAQgCARsEkQ8WhDUFi2SEBYZmgkQFmQiBb4QWH4J6AQEB X-IPAS-Result: AvIMAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw5Ugw6GfsQIh0sEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWKAsLNBIUGA2IbwkNy2UBAQgCARsEkQ8WhDUFi2SEBYZmgkQFmQiBb4QWH4J6AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,797,1406606400"; d="scan'208";a="96591240" Original-Received: from 75-119-235-29.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.235.29]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 10 Nov 2014 16:37:51 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 01BFF735D; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:37:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:46:17 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176715 Archived-At: > Yes. I think that's what Stefan was asking for. But Stefan seems to > prefer the elpakit approach, which is fine too (Nic has a nice > comparison section at https://github.com/nicferrier/elpakit). That's a misunderstanding. I don't prefer any of those options because I don't actually know anything about them (or close enough). > (Stefan: would you and the other maintainers be open to Cask+Pallet > *and* elpakit in Emacs? Or is that too much choice?) If someone cared to explain what that would do and why that would imply "choice", I could tell you. Nic says: > I don't think that was Stefan's position. His position was "can we have > this feature?" > I don't think he cares who does it or how it's done. Exactly. Stefan