From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19731: 24.4; /dev/null is deleted by tramp-sh.el Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r3u8k065.fsf@gmx.de> <87mw4wjyqi.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9v4jxde.fsf@gmx.de> <87d25sjwgj.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422902722 6890 80.91.229.3 (2 Feb 2015 18:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: crocket , 19731@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 19:45:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YILzp-00015E-QK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:45:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56036 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YILzp-00015d-1H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YILzk-00012z-3f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:45:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YILza-000571-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:45:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41146) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YILza-00056a-Oc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:45:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YILza-0006y6-8X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:45:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19731.142290265126702 (code B ref 19731); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2015 18:44:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YILyk-0006wb-Pt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:44:11 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:54269) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YILyh-0006w9-FU for 19731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:44:08 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsPAOwQflRsoX+8/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQEGAQEBAR6QbweESAWLAZIxj3OCCoF4hBkhgncBAQE X-IPAS-Result: AjsPAOwQflRsoX+8/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQEGAQEBAR6QbweESAWLAZIxj3OCCoF4hBkhgncBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="109471587" Original-Received: from 108-161-127-188.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([108.161.127.188]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 02 Feb 2015 13:44:01 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CC6AC66100; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:44:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87d25sjwgj.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:04:44 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98989 Archived-At: > Well, I'm kind of conservative. Setting HISTFILE to /dev/null is the > default for years, and your report is the first one about this problem. It seems like a plain bug for bash to do what it does (does it also turn a symlink into a plain file? wouldn't that also be a bug?), but I wonder: what could Tramp do instead of setting HISTFILE to /dev/null? Could unsetting it result in the same behavior (i.e. not save Tramp's commands to any file)? Stefan