From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:31:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87vb4zb0i4.fsf@gnu.org> <837fheuu6a.fsf@gnu.org> <83twkiteb3.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh5utbxb.fsf@gnu.org> <56DDD02A.20809@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuw2t2ue.fsf@gnu.org> <56DE0F6A.6010207@cs.ucla.edu> <87y49tdq33.fsf@gnu.org> <8360wxrlh7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457454756 21721 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2016 16:32:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 17:32:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adKYO-00007Z-2e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:32:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKYN-0007QU-Ip for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:32:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47211) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKY2-0007MF-LV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:31:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKY1-0001bP-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:31:50 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:15564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adKXv-0001YC-Jl; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:31:43 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A+FgA731xV/30PNJ1cgxCEAoVVwwsEAgKBPD0QAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBBwEBAQEeizqFBQeELQWMMKhUI4QWIIJ4AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A0A+FgA731xV/30PNJ1cgxCEAoVVwwsEAgKBPD0QAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBBwEBAQEeizqFBQeELQWMMKhUI4QWIIJ4AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="195560361" Original-Received: from 157-52-15-125.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([157.52.15.125]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2016 11:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 76D076415F; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:31:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8360wxrlh7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:19:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201170 Archived-At: > Which means they will either have all the uncorrected mistakes (like > missing "tiny change" etc.), or you expect from Someone to do all the > fixes as part of tarring a release. I think both alternatives are > unacceptable. I've been living with those uncorrected mistakes ever since bzr became fast enough that I started to rely on "bzr log" rather than on ChangeLog files. I'd prefer if we could fix those mistakes, indeed, but fixing them in the ChangeLog is (for me) a complete waste of time. Stefan