From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:18:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <07D5E64D-DAD0-45B3-B272-627A73D7CBAE@gmail.com> <459A0475-E3E7-4159-82DF-93809CCF1E24@gmail.com> <87eehng52n.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtwbye5b.fsf@gmail.com> <87czx7ycva.fsf@tcd.ie> <87eehmyalr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dneoewi.fsf@tcd.ie> <875z2yy6z7.fsf@gmail.com> <1c0598ce-c364-1711-8280-18e4ae091fb6@yandex.ru> <2fd8df6a-1993-fc1e-6e65-12938b0f57b3@gmx.at> <83y2ftdtkr.fsf@gnu.org> <5bde0ea3-8921-e17c-2390-243233ef2a34@gmx.at> <83sg61doxl.fsf@gnu.org> <9974c5a7-3276-9ec8-5e3b-4139c379f070@gmx.at> <87ft1yvn27.fsf@gmail.com> <83o8gmbqbm.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: casouri@gmail.com, Robert Pluim , alan@idiocy.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, contovob@tcd.ie, rudalics@gmx.at, dgutov@yandex.ru, yandros@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 14 19:59:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lBMc9-0002kq-3F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 19:59:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBMc8-0003cR-4t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:59:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBLyb-0003Ml-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:18:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:46449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBLyT-0006RG-Fz; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:18:32 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 480098084A; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:18:24 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B1F9C8091C; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:18:22 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1613326702; bh=m2gZOkc8vx/XbNvqXZUuNe/oOf2d+ZaU21ZsnSSMT9E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Pox4+K3Ab0ToTYePNl2gf0IMpXQmJi8EoeEFWcKIw1e7SX+lTbpMcgX43x/5P3itA zUrnxlog8r3eiVh/LriNOCYEyzs6a7Kf7KE6Qu5yuMJy0FfWi6EhhThUwJ3OsxzNp2 /kejQUpQu8fdcG9jdi7vgry386cqa/8QLD3rOx6U9L28mbKrqcLU8MnZdFkB9gF68x yKWI99Vu8c7D0A7xBao8rCPSNXj5eI1sGpwezpzysbuf7oWqUVQIFDkTNBlMD1WwGt MB3EHijrbwSXcOhbLo08QVpD64qQWGg1vxr0cAy8M57xwMKLpRQgSyDTt/Pxlsk99U HI78ahNzeZNJg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.41.47]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 495E01202E4; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:18:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83o8gmbqbm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:51:25 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264757 Archived-At: > OTOH, if no other toolkit exists on a system, or if no other toolkit > builds with Emacs, the no-toolkit is the only way to have a GUI Emacs. > So maybe it is worth preserving, especially as the amount of > maintenance it requires is strictly zero. Is there a system where --with-toolkit=no can build yet --with-toolkit=lucid can't? Stefan