From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Patch: debug-instrumented predicate
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 18:14:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvczokh2bc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB4977C69522B279DE3039EF1F96AE9@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Mon, 04 Oct 2021 23:58:26 +0200")
Arthur Miller [2021-10-04 23:58:26] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> Concrete use-case would be to offer a user some kind of gui to instrument or remove
>>> instrumentation for debug/edebug/profile/trace.
>>
>> W.r.t *removal* of debug/profile/trace, this could be done by offering
>> a generic removal GUI for advice.
>
> Njah, advice already has add/remove which can be connected to a gui button or
> what not. However any generic interface always need a specialisation for a case
> at hand anyway, at least a different label on a button. But we are drifting
> away.
I don't think it's drifting: I'm suggesting that we try to add support
for it in a way that supports them all at the same time.
> I ask/suggest for an API to discover if instrumentation is installed or not.
And I'm suggesting that make `advice-member-p` should be the way to do that.
Currently this requires reliance on some internal knowledge of the
advice's name, but we could fix it by making this name public&stable.
> The only one that truly is missing a mean to test for on/off state is edebug.
Indeed. I haven't looked at whether it could be made to use
`advice-add` so that `advice-member-p` could be used as well.
There's a good chance that it's not really an option (I mean
technically, I'm pretty sure it could be done, but I suspect it will
come with enough downsides that it's not worth it).
Until it can be made to use `advice-member-p` we should indeed export
a public way to test whether a function is instrumented by Edebug.
> I don't know which one is more efficient, but I don't like neither of those two,
> I don't think any of suggested solutions is efficient. Also they both rely on
> internal state that can change whenever.
As long as these functions are defined in `edebug.el` it's OK if they
rely on internal state.
> When a function is instrumented for edebug, edebug adds some properties into
> symbols property list. However when instrumentation is removed, edebug leaves
> those properties to scrap behind; that inclusive the position in buffer where it
> was active. IMO it is a bug; it shouldn't leave scrap behind. It would also be
> trivial to check if a funciton is instrumented or not, if those properties were
> removed when instrumentation is removed.
>
> Unless I misunderstand the purpose why properties are left behind after
> instrumentation is removed :).
I suspect they're not left behind for any good reason, and
the best way to find out is to remove them and see if someone screams.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-04 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-04 15:20 Patch: debug-instrumented predicate Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 16:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-04 19:25 ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 20:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-04 21:58 ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 22:14 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-10-04 22:56 ` Arthur Miller
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