From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:11:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a5zj2vfo.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1mz38rl.fsf@posteo.net> <87ile2n0kn.fsf@gmail.com> <83v8i2abqi.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn2ilgx7.fsf@gmail.com> <83a5ze9uc1.fsf@gnu.org> <831qkq9rpy.fsf@gnu.org> <83pm898xb9.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6tlleg0.fsf@gmail.com> <8335558qc7.fsf@gnu.org> <83sfd5761f.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg7djrgr.fsf@gmail.com> <83o7nt73za.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt3d73c2.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0sptinq.fsf@posteo.net> <83jzyh706c.fsf@gnu.org> <875ya1tdwf.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13682"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , joaotavora@gmail.com To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 12 16:12:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pmbCs-0003Jh-1r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=K9ibl9L643jfyjDnTlaxYI+/rYmej7xV6Ez5ni3zwMX+GR+Ln06ffn5WP3RoGY3/J nllNNK6gTdw3jBflwolVipjgVy5mRlpD2MsS61PwOtMTDhKhmMH818LSmZ32ixNhgE RjcfnjQYe4qrfA6ihI3EKMLh8sNG7UIp9cGJsf/+ymKVSopmWQjUVKI5iIe2xjpPu+ PUoWQA3Hk5+OktOAbWtAZ/iUZmhnsl0HTxhRShwjawQKUxc13AyB4GZtNN8EIZBM2k 55z3Yg2HBZnTNQOhtr3mv95kKsHYbFnXg8yhMXBs/mp4peFBslIdPx3mxqzp0uh3jA 6Ydb/iepf/RFA== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.217.176]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EBBA41202F2; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:11:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <875ya1tdwf.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:42:56 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259746 Archived-At: >>> +(defun package-core-p (package) >>> + "Return non-nil the built-in version of PACKAGE is loaded." >> >> Didn't you say the "core" terminology was confusing people? > > TBH I am not really satisfied with the name (so any other suggestion is > just as fine for me), and as Joao said it would be better to make the > predicate as internal so that users are not expected to deal with it. Beside "core" and "built-in" (with or without dash), another name that's been used over the years is "bundled". I don't have a strong preference between those. Stefan