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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: acohen@ust.hk, 64391@debbugs.gnu.org,
	mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org
Subject: bug#64391: buffer narrowing slowdown regression in emacs 29
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2023 19:22:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvcz12t2mw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <239e2a5aa14d33c1b087@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sat, 08 Jul 2023 22:21:20 +0000")

> Well, there's at least something that could be fixed in the manuals.
> I admit I had never read the "Special Forms" section, and if the manual had
> been consistent about the special form vs. macro distiction, perhaps
> I wouldn't have confused these two similar, but subtly different, notions.

At the same time, for the ELisp programmer, this distinction is just an
implementation detail (except for rare corner cases where the programmer
needs to look at the output of `macroexpand`).  What is a macro and what
is a special form has changed in the past and will likely change again
in the future (e.g. `defun`, `defmacro`, and `prog2` are now macros but
used to be special forms).


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-08 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-01  0:15 bug#64391: 30.0.50; buffer narrowing slowdown regression in emacs 29 Andrew Cohen
2023-07-01  2:45 ` bug#64391: bug 64391 wrong git info Andrew Cohen
2023-07-01  4:59 ` bug#64391: more info Andrew Cohen
2023-07-01 11:37   ` bug#64391: buffer narrowing slowdown regression in emacs 29 Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-01 12:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-01 12:52       ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-02  7:35         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-05 11:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 14:41             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-06 17:33               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-06 18:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 18:45                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-07  9:30                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-07 10:00                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-07 10:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 10:31                           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-07 12:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 12:46                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-07 11:33                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-07 12:42                           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-07 15:49                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-08 20:58                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-08 21:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-08 22:21                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-08 23:22                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-07-09 16:03                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-09 18:57                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-09  6:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09  8:35                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-09  8:52                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09 16:04                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-09 16:39                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09 18:03                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-09 18:52                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-09 19:19                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-09 19:42                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-09 19:44                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-09 19:03                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09 19:06                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09 19:29                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-07 10:27                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 11:27                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-07 12:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 16:49                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-07 18:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08  8:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 19:41                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-07-02  9:37         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-07-01  7:07 ` bug#64391: 30.0.50; " Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-01  7:31   ` Andrew Cohen
2023-07-01  8:09     ` Eli Zaretskii

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