From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ignore is bound to but is META Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <44315469.1080203@student.lu.se> <443167E4.8060702@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1144092887 3008 80.91.229.2 (3 Apr 2006 19:34:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel , Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 03 21:34:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUox-0003UH-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:34:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUow-0005uu-U7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUnx-0005IN-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUnv-0005HW-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:33:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUnv-0005HR-A0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQUr0-0007mM-35; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897CE2CE9B2; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC03F445C; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9D31C71553; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <443167E4.8060702@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:22:28 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:52376 Archived-At: > at least to be more consistent? On the other hand I do not think that > Emacs should say that a key is bound to anything if it is used as META. It's more general than that: When Emacs says "foo is bound to M-c, , " all it means is that if you somehow manage to generate events M-c, or , then that'll call those functions. But M-c may be remapped via key-translation-map to something else, so hitting Meta+c may not actually call your function `foo'. And the key that you think of as "prior" may not send the event . Think of the RET vs `return' case. Even after your (setq w32-lwindow-modifier 'meta), you may still be able to generate `lwindow' event (using some other key(combo)). Stefan