From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#865: 23.0.60; The directory is unsafe today Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:37:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <48BD642C.5050405@gmail.com> <48BDD155.8060005@gnu.org> <48BF2171.8040101@gnu.org> <48BF5671.1040705@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 865@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220971738 1083 80.91.229.12 (9 Sep 2008 14:48:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, 865@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 09 16:49:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kd4X0-0000Qq-Ix for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:49:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kd4W0-0003vk-LE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:48:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kd4VK-0003dC-JI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:47:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kd4VF-0003ZP-UC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37384 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kd4VF-0003Z5-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:55485) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kd4VE-0007J1-W9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m89ElWCq019248; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:47:33 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m89Ej5Fd018035; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:45:05 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:45:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 865 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 865-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B865.122097109115873 (code B ref 865); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:45:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 865) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Sep 2008 14:38:11 +0000 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m89Ec3Do015866 for <865@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:38:04 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEALEmxkhFxIqP/2dsb2JhbACBZbRXgWSBBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,365,1217822400"; d="scan'208";a="26559357" Original-Received: from 69-196-138-143.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.138.143]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2008 10:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DAF0E54279; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:37:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:08:40 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:47:40 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:20390 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23025 Archived-At: > Not exactly: most programs don't use these special flags, and some of > them seem to require special privileges, although I'm not quite sure > who can gain those privileges. (A small test program confirmed that I > can gain them, even though I'm not in the Administrators group.) > See: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa364399(VS.85).aspx > for more details. > But I don't think we should dismiss the privacy issue just because it > can be bypassed by an ill meaning program: the same can happen on > Unix, given a program that deliberately gains root access. "Normal" > programs don't use those special access flags and privileges, and so > cannot access files in a private directory. Huh? Those programs that can deliberately gain root access are kept under very tight control. For a normal user to be able to read arbitrary files on the system is considered as a major security hole on unixy systems (even if she has to go through contortions to do that). Stefan