From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#737: vc-dir reports unregistered-then-deleted file is "up-to-date" Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <18600.37952.844941.609726@rgrjr.rgrjr.dyndns.org> <200810040538.m945cRWl025789@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050104.m9514rDt028153@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810050224.m952OBGw028267@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <200810060033.m960X1L9001223@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <5vprmemb3k.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <200810060753.m967rsdr002713@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <18665.54888.18653.725178@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200810090452.m994qaCG015034@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <2d7i57hryi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <200901071935.n07JZ10o008592@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231434470 29113 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2009 17:07:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 08 18:09:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LKyNN-0005Ug-Lw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:08:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56624 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKyM7-0005MO-IW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:07:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKyI5-0003YL-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKyI3-0003X5-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41918 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKyI3-0003Wz-D5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:03:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:37184) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKyI2-0005Bl-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n08H3ONg026868; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:03:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n08Go3j1023350; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:50:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 737 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 737-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B737.123143306021977 (code B ref 737); Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 737) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Jan 2009 16:44:20 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n08GiHEB021969 for <737@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:44:18 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQFAFu8ZUlFxJt//2dsb2JhbACBbM1GhXWBaYJI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,235,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="32028591" Original-Received: from 69-196-155-127.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.155.127]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 08 Jan 2009 11:44:11 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4CEEF86E5; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:44:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200901071935.n07JZ10o008592@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:35:01 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:03:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23922 Archived-At: >> Actually, the stay-local feature in CVS is (for me) not so much to work >> offline (since CVS is not really usable in that circumstance), but so >> that M-x vc-dir RET doesn't take ages to give me a buffer. I very often >> want to have a *vc-dir* buffer to see which files I've modified, then >> either open them, or get a diff of the changes I made, ... all those >> operations can be made in much less time than it takes for "cvs >> update -n" (or "cvs status") to finish. > Wow, this answer is a blast from the past... Yes, I was going through some forgotten old emails. > You can get the above by setting a variable, doing it by default for CVS > does not seem like a good idea. Good, thanks. >> Yes, it's too bad that vc-dir is still lacking such features at >> this point. Not enough contributors, it seems. > You are giving vc-dir too much credit here, in itself it's nothing more > than a pretty printer and a GUI that can return multiple selections. > What's missing is the mechanism to do these things in VC. Once VC has > support for vc-pull, adding such support to vc-dir should be easy. I guess you're right, but I don't see VC and vc-dir as so separate. Especially not for vc-pull since it would (most likely) only/mostly be available through vc-dir. > Maybe you want to make some public statement saying that VC is in good > shape now, and that contributions to improve it are welcome and very > much wanted... Of course, now that we're in feature freeze, it's kind of ill-timed. Stefan