From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9934: 24.0.91; `region-active-p' definition Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:26:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320197210 1112 80.91.229.12 (2 Nov 2011 01:26:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9934@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 02 02:26:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPbK-0005Jt-Am for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:26:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPbJ-0003Mk-K8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:26:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44733) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPbG-0003MI-QF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPbF-0007cw-S1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:26:42 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPbF-0007cp-PJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:26:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPdV-0008HQ-Fv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:29:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9934 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9934-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9934.132019731031790 (code B ref 9934); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9934) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2011 01:28:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPd0-0008Gg-JK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLPcy-0008GZ-8I for 9934@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:28:29 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pA21Q1FI008991; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:26:01 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E8948592E5; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:26:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:26:35 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4028=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <4028> : streams <697555> : uri <997241> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:29:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:53427 Archived-At: > It is the name `region-active-p' that is a bit misleading. Outside t-m mode the > region is neither active nor inactive. When `region-active-p' returns nil it That's false as well. (transient-mark-mode -1) followed by C-SPC C-SPC will create an active region. Nowadays transient-mark-mode basically only toggles the behavior between C-SPC and C-SPC SPC as well as between C-x C-x and C-u C-x C-x. Yes, mark-active is weird and messy and so is transient-mark-mode. The implementation is ugly, messy, and twisted. Patches to clean up the mess are welcome, but I see no bug here. Stefan