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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: 16196@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:57:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvbnzsr7zm.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C3F659BF-9AAE-4590-8F8C-A8FDEE0372DA@swipnet.se> ("Jan Djärv"'s message of "Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:44:52 +0100")

>> I'm not opposed to such an option, but I'm not convinced that changing
>> the default behavior is a good idea: the general design of Emacs is that
>> we strive to make every command perform *something*, so when the user's
>> request ends up doing nothing, we signal an error to make it clear that
>> Emacs did obey the request.  Otherwise the lack of feedback can make the
>> user feel like Emacs is unresponsive.
> The main use case here is "flinging" with a trackpad.  In that case, Emacs
> already responds by scrolling up/down to the top/bottom.  It is after Emacs
> has hit top/bottom that the "extra" beeps occur.

But if you're at EOB and you scroll with the wheel to try and go "even
further", if Emacs doesn't (ding), then it does nothing: lack of feedback.

> If already at the top/bottom, the normal thing for OSX apps is to
> "bounce" a bit to show that the display is already at the top/bottom.  If at
> the top, the whole page is moved a bit downwards and then bounces back.
> This is not common in X, so not really appropriate for Emacs.

Right, instead we (ding).


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-03 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20  6:08 bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Jan Djärv
2013-12-20  8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 10:26   ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:32     ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 17:52         ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 18:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 18:48             ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 20:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-23  2:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 10:44                   ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-03 22:57                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-01-03 23:46                       ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04  0:03                         ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04  5:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  9:40                           ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04 13:43                           ` martin rudalics
2014-01-04 20:40                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  7:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04  9:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-09  7:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  8:57   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-10 18:07     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11 14:28       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-12  0:52         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:26           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:03             ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:11               ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:19                 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 21:51                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-04 16:11                     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  9:00   ` martin rudalics
2019-08-10 18:23     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11  8:17       ` martin rudalics

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