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From: Stefan <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Redisplay problems?
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:15:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvbnwvfp0u.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ob0v1qkj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:58:36 +0200")

> OTOH, when we need to deiconify a frame, or expose a large portion of
> it, I see no space for significant optimizations anyway.  Redisplay
> optimizations are about redrawing as small portions of the frame as
> possible.  But in the case in point, we basically need to redraw the
> entire frame -- how much can you win here anyway?

Of course, the window-system may elect to do some of this redraw on its
own by keeping a copy of the frame's last content (under X11 the
corresponding feature is called "BackingStore").  In that case we don't
need to redraw the entire frame.  We may often not need to redraw
anything at all.

IIRC this "BackingStore" option is typically disabled nowadays in X11,
so we shouldn't pay too much attention to it.  But I'm not sure how
compositing window-managers behave in this respect, since they kind of
"naturally" have a kinf of backing-store.  IOW, if we want to be serious
about this discussion, we should first get some real data from w32,
Gnome, and ns cases to see if in practice, a deiconifiy is almost always
followed by an "expose" of the frame, or not.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-24 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-10 20:37 Redisplay problems? Christian Lynbech
2014-03-13 20:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-15 18:10 ` James Cloos
2014-03-18 10:48   ` Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如)
2014-03-18 16:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18 16:17     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-03-18 16:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18 16:53         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-03-18 17:00           ` Christian Lynbech
2014-03-18 17:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18 21:18         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-03-19  0:55           ` Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如)
2014-03-20 17:59           ` Stefan
2014-03-20 19:37             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-03-18 18:46     ` James Cloos
2014-03-19 16:26     ` martin rudalics
2014-03-19 18:04       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-03-20  0:54         ` Stefan
2014-03-20  9:52           ` martin rudalics
2014-03-20 16:07             ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-20 19:23               ` martin rudalics
2014-03-20  4:46       ` Stefan
2014-03-20  9:52         ` martin rudalics
2014-03-20 12:45           ` Stefan
2014-03-20 14:01             ` Stefan
2014-03-20 17:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-20 18:00                 ` Stefan
2014-03-20 18:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-20 18:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-20 20:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-21  7:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21 12:59                   ` Stefan
2014-03-21 16:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21 19:31                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22  7:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-22 13:48                           ` Stefan
2014-03-22 13:53                             ` martin rudalics
2014-03-22 15:37                               ` Stefan
2014-03-22 14:29                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-22 15:42                               ` Stefan
2014-03-22 16:07                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-22 18:43                                   ` Stefan
2014-03-22 19:08                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24  1:58                                       ` Stefan
2014-03-24  3:55                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24  8:32                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 16:58                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 18:15                                               ` Stefan [this message]
2014-03-24 19:34                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 12:33                                           ` Stefan
2014-03-24 17:36                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 18:07                                               ` Stefan
2014-03-24 19:30                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 20:43                                                   ` Stefan
2014-03-25  3:52                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-25 13:10                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-26 15:28                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-27 13:55                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-27 17:33                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-27 21:13                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-28  7:15                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                       ` <<jwvzjkeqvcg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                         ` <<83d2h9yo5m.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-03-26 15:37                                                           ` Drew Adams
2014-03-22 19:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24  1:56                                       ` Stefan
2014-03-20 19:22             ` martin rudalics
2014-03-20 20:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21  8:03                 ` martin rudalics
2014-03-21  8:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21  9:51                     ` martin rudalics
2014-03-21 10:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-22  2:00                         ` Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如)
2014-03-22  2:37                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22  3:38                             ` Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如)
2014-03-22  7:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21 13:08                     ` Stefan
2014-03-21 16:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21 19:42                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22  7:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-22 13:56                             ` Stefan
2014-03-22 14:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-20 21:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-21  7:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21 13:02                   ` Stefan
2014-03-21 16:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-21 19:39                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22  7:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-22 13:49                           ` Stefan
2014-03-22 14:29                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-20 16:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-27 21:17 ` Christian Lynbech
     [not found] <<m2bnxdg58p.fsf@defun.dk>

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