From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17880: 24.4.50; [FEATURE] abbrev with skeleton Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:43:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1404135937 14976 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2014 13:45:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17880@debbugs.gnu.org To: Leo Liu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 30 15:45:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X1btd-0006Do-CM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:45:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1btc-0000XP-Ut for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1btR-0000Wr-La for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1btJ-0001SQ-4N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:45:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1btJ-0001S7-1p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X1btI-00084L-K5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:45:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:45:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17880 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17880-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17880.140413584330901 (code B ref 17880); Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:45:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2014 13:44:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X1bsE-00081o-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:14270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X1bs7-00081W-Sb for 17880@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:43:56 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="69969262" Original-Received: from 75-119-224-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.224.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 30 Jun 2014 09:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C354C602EE; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:43:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:10:58 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91001 Archived-At: > I was looking for packages to obsolete and find this expand.el. The > skeleton DSL is certainly more powerful. Comments? Yes, expand.el might be a good candidate for obsolescence. > BTW, we should be able to extend skeleton to cover snippet.el or > whatever nicely. I mean snippet.el/yas-snippet.el might not be the one > we want to converge to. The discussion with Joao convinced me that "extending skeleton" is not going to work quite right (IOW, it won't "cover it nicely"). So the idea is rather to introduce yet-another thingy, but try to make sure that skeleton.el can be rewritten as a "compatibility front-end", and same for tempo.el. Stefan