From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871t7d4ion.fsf@gmx.de> <87oaagi128.fsf@gmx.de> <877fh0hovs.fsf@gmx.de> <756f60a7-bdf9-a806-b9d6-dbf17f0ebaab@yandex.ru> <87y49gg9sm.fsf@gmx.de> <845ef936-dec1-eac9-db2a-f2bb25f3a830@yandex.ru> <87egb8faxv.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj3eks.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj4jvp.fsf@gmx.de> <871t7650th.fsf@gmx.de> <87io0i32sq.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458417923 20418 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2016 20:05:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 20:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23006@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 21:05:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN7W-0002M2-7I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 21:05:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50280 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN7U-0007cp-U5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:05:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42413) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN7S-0007bR-1X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN7N-0005Dp-W0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN7N-0005Dl-TC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN7N-0007hD-PC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 20:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23006 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23006-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23006.145841785829532 (code B ref 23006); Sat, 19 Mar 2016 20:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2016 20:04:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN6g-0007gG-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:16395) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahN6e-0007g3-Oc for 23006@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:04:16 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A1FgA731xV/xSQs2tcgxCEAoVVu0CEfoJNBAICgTw7EgEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQRWIxALNBIUGA0kiD/PIwEBAQEBAQQBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FnxeSFINZI4QUIoJ4AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A0A1FgA731xV/xSQs2tcgxCEAoVVu0CEfoJNBAICgTw7EgEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQRWIxALNBIUGA0kiD/PIwEBAQEBAQQBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FnxeSFINZI4QUIoJ4AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="196986331" Original-Received: from 107-179-144-20.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([107.179.144.20]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2016 16:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F02DD5FE67; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:04:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87io0i32sq.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:28:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115103 Archived-At: Hi Michael, It seems we have a very fundamental misunderstanding about what "essential" means in this context. Can you explain *your* understanding of `non-essential', then? What does this var mean, for you? And how do you relate that to its documented meaning in its docstring? Stefan