From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim Subject: Re: Kmail: Gmail (less secure apps) advice for GNU emacs developers. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o8njdlvs.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <1897936.H7q943mS67@merkaba> <5532801.MhkbZ0Pkbq@twilight> <87zh728oco.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22202"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Allan Sandfeld Jensen , KDE PIM , emacs-devel To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 11 00:38:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k5GRE-0005hO-Qd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 00:38:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37228 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5GRD-0001VB-SK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5GQh-00016B-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:38:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:24524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5GQe-0007OL-7H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B237080E03; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E13D380382; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:38:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1597099080; bh=1PGz1PiMD8rfyZiai/teWdwMLtDjUbKhmCO7LZ5Wi3Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=A9alU6MYaR4ndMo4Is58JdJFV/VQPlCQvzBBDQKlWEGsoYLVLltZx0K8BJCF/97hT 0iI9efn7IDq+iBT1iI9XlLPUNU3+WhXemL/EamelVB59fqC/N8w+GGR0718MLe4GOs Ui9ITZobTI7Tsjs5g+SD9KipuAJPnJm0tEtG87t5m85CkGn9gSRAsJUB8bL4ugD8BY LfhwmZEkpr1/L4gVrlUE9JhIquHvY1EJOAKepInJEAv8QeSnNQ9SknpyKZ01+X8lNs ai9D59YncHNqXa0ohjeocv9BIAiGpKzQr65xiImFmbE2TYmTzzaN5r9E0YCqHoICSs xqaHcJrNr7tiw== Original-Received: from milanesa (unknown [45.72.246.108]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DFDE12049E; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:38:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87zh728oco.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:20:07 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/10 18:19:33 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253607 gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim:74996 Archived-At: > Ah, well, in a perfect world fine, but for example, my university > switched to Gmail some years ago and will stay. > > Since I don't want to use any other email reader than gnus, and a lot of > people feel this way, any advice on a _technical solution_ is very much > appreciated. FWIW, this has been discussed at my workplace as well, tho luckily it hasn't happened (yet?). At that time, I had considered what I'd do, and I concluded that I'd most likely setup a forwarding on my (gmail) work email and buy a more respectable email service like `posteo.de`. Stefan "luckily still using an email service maintained by a colleague a few doors down (well, such was the case back when we were still allowed to use our offices)"