From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:45:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20210912165141.9491.52637@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <05cbffe0-f89b-ff54-64f5-cd1d11bac4f5@yandex.ru> <831r5pbt7j.fsf@gnu.org> <83wnnhacy4.fsf@gnu.org> <40937e22-994f-466c-87be-4f70a522118a@yandex.ru> <83o88t9kgb.fsf@gnu.org> <9672aeae-a969-1526-003b-abb1b00b5b49@yandex.ru> <87sfy43dlt.fsf@gnus.org> <1a0f9230b7d75e426474@heytings.org> <1a0f9230b71c3d2eff86@heytings.org> <835yuz8na8.fsf@gnu.org> <1a0f9230b7571d4c3293@heytings.org> <831r5n8kqa.fsf@gnu.org> <1a0f9230b74fe15d1abf@heytings.org> <1a0f9230b76ce1574e10@heytings.org> <87mtobkknl.fsf@elite.giraud> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17784"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Juri Linkov , Stefan Kangas , Emacs developers , martin rudalics , Gregory Heytings , Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii , Yuri Khan , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Manuel Giraud Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 18 15:46:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaff-0004Od-23 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:46:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53126 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRafd-0007Gt-9J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:46:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaf0-0006cP-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaez-0003T8-1H; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EED8E10018B; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 92BAA100139; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:45:37 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1631972737; bh=w+WraCZbXOeqB8Q5djP3gFbW3fuDEAacWXb7dXVmFpo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=TYv8qW7h5ot7Wk0Ex1x7qscVmMyk4HiXYA/x0SIbhzCN4EJW18YrP4apDA06xwxru qu8g0sAcoP25p0maxlkxP+l44RYCRQ9vo/6Umn3QA4TITxsik59DJdCpqUrllHpTAc NwGJbcMfll30isDGzrQeEy/HYhFE4lrPr040nTtNZF8XDPSZn9pzyxnlTItx/JUtKF x8PeURiPkGPhiOjhXHBWQms7LFORArd7ANgyxZfOPFZf/+Z87fsXMAoul0/1aYGGRQ HYhiSh+r56yNrh1VJQvo3LqtUVOCUxypuiBMbO0i6Lx2s/7M/42zMIfC5A9aCr1GSq Si9r6YTS4W3gA== Original-Received: from milanesa (unknown [45.72.241.23]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29B55120296; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:45:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87mtobkknl.fsf@elite.giraud> (Manuel Giraud's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2021 22:32:46 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274994 Archived-At: >> 100% agreement. My preference for using a well-defined convention based >> on some existing markup language is that the text is then plain ASCII >> (and hence easy to type and to display) but we can additionally prettify >> it in a reliable way if the user cares about it. > > [Hi! old time newbie here trying to follow this long discussion.] > I think that the point (3) of Gregory is important too. > It seems to me that you are refering to the `` Markdown convention. Not specifically, no. > I think that what Gregory was saying (correct me otherwise) is that it > is useful to have distinct characters to represent opening and > closing quote. The usefulness is that it resolves some ambiguities. But those can resolved in other ways (e.g. by disallowing newlines between the opening and closing quote). In any case, resolving ambiguity is why I'm referring to a "well-defined convention". Stefan