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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master af0ea35ea0: Tweak how functions are formatted in Implementation in *Help*
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 10:26:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvbkxjlgp0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h77bliwl.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 02 Apr 2022 15:22:18 +0200")

>> If so, we should be careful to only apply it to the argnames but not to
>> the specializers since these are case sensitive.
> Yup.  But, yes, I think it would make sense to upcase/italicize the
> argnames, because that would clarify what we're talking about here
> (which isn't at all obvious).  Patches welcome.

Agreed.

>> The above patch also leads to odd results for methods with qualifiers.
>> E.g. `C-h o cl-generic-generalizers RET` shows things like:
>>
>>     :extra "cl-struct" (cl-generic-generalizers type) in ‘cl-generic.el’.
>>
>>     Undocumented
>>
>> which I find rather confusing.
>
> I've now made those things display as before, but I think it's not quite
> clear what that part is trying to express, so some clarification here
> would be nice.

The new behavior is weird/confusing.  I get (with manual
capitalization, while we wait for an actual patch):

    [...]

    (cl-generic-generalizers (SPECIALIZER (head derived-mode))) in ‘cl-generic.el’.

    Support for (derived-mode MODE) specializers.
    Used internally for the (major-mode MODE) context specializers.

    :extra "typeof" (TYPE) in ‘cl-generic.el’.

    [...]

The presence/absence of `cl-generic-generalizers` looks rather
accidental/unexplained (IOW looks like a bug to me :-)

For reference, these correspond to:

    (cl-defmethod cl-generic-generalizers ((specializer (head derived-mode))))

and

    (cl-defmethod cl-generic-generalizers :extra "typeof" (type)

in the source code.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-02 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <164872671963.30191.4037902323881017518@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20220331113841.3BBFAC0581F@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-03-31 13:05   ` master af0ea35ea0: Tweak how functions are formatted in Implementation in *Help* Robert Pluim
2022-03-31 18:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-02 13:22       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-02 14:26         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-04-02 14:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-02 19:30             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-03 11:57               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-03 16:18                 ` Stefan Monnier

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