From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: 20 Nov 2003 17:36:54 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBD2202.1090201@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069368528 28327 80.91.224.253 (20 Nov 2003 22:48:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 23:48:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMxbM-0006UZ-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:48:40 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMxbL-0002ku-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:48:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMyTm-0003dB-8b for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:44:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMyOz-0007vS-Ps for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMyO8-00071Q-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:39:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMyNS-0006Qa-Q0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from vor.iro.umontreal.ca (vor.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.42]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAKMasbj001442; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:54 -0500 Original-Received: by vor.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9EABC3C63E; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:54 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Kevin Rodgers In-Reply-To: <3FBD2202.1090201@yahoo.com> Original-Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17987 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17987 >> Programmers forget the * all the time, so people complained about some vars >> being settable via customize-variable but not via set-variable, and it >> was fixed so the * is irrelevant for `defcustom'. I think that's a good >> thing and I'd like to bring the doc in line with the code. > I think we should educate programmers to fix their broken code, not change > Emacs (which wasn't broken). That's effort. If the only benefit is to prevent some users from using set-variable because the programmer thinks it's too cumbersome, I find this effort is plainly wasted. Stefan