From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:23:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvac1v2pos.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <457BD0FE.7020005@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun\, 10 Dec 2006 10\:18\:54 +0100")
>> If there is bad fontification for only one file in Emacs, out of the
>> universe of C files, why not set open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start
>> to be nil for that file, using a file-local variable?
> It would be simpler to make syntax.c obey the coding standard by
> removing the conflicting open paren in column zero. Alas, the problem
> is merely ideological: If we abandon the standard, people will more
> frequently write files that don't obey the open paren in column zero
> convention. I think:
> - Programmers should avoid putting open parens in column zero unless
> these start a defun. To enforce this behavior, major modes should
> always issue a warning by highlighting such parens (where "always"
> means "as long as the according coding standard persists").
I disagree in general. What I agree to is that programmers should avoid
putting things that look like defuns inside comments and strings.
I.e. in Lisp, an open-paren-in-col0 is indeed a bad idea. In C it's not
a problem (maybe an open-brace-in-col0 is a problem there, but not an open
paren).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-11 1:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-12-04 21:17 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-06 12:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-06 16:31 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-07 4:59 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 17:46 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-09 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-11 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-12 16:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-12 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 0:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 1:11 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-10 9:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 14:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 15:13 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 20:30 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-13 21:29 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 1:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 7:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 10:47 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 18:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 20:21 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 20:35 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 0:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-15 10:35 ` Johan Bockgård
2006-12-14 21:53 ` What `opic0ids' really is [was: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.] Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 7:32 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw martin rudalics
2006-12-15 19:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:20 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 18:36 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for c-basic-common-init Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 22:59 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-18 0:06 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 18:27 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:00 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:33 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 19:59 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:10 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 21:26 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 22:43 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:40 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 4:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 10:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:26 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:59 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 11:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-18 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 22:11 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:37 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 22:21 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 17:29 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 18:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 22:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:03 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 10:45 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 21:39 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-14 7:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 7:51 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-15 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 9:18 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2006-12-11 7:23 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 7:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 8:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-08 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 10:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 11:58 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 14:30 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-12-11 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-06 20:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-07 5:07 ` Stefan Monnier
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