From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86d513r2i1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <861whjr097.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <200705141648.l4EGmmvW007675@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85bqgngvos.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705141819.l4EIJLPr009832@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85ps53fcm0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705142004.l4EK4DHg012188@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85lkfrf91x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705142102.l4EL2pHK013655@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <4649D75C.2090905@lorentey.hu> <464A6144.10905@lorentey.hu> <86ejlfpfdj.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <861whepoq7.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <868xbmmbji.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <858xbjq320.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179753386 15591 80.91.229.12 (21 May 2007 13:16:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , Dan Nicolaescu , Karoly Lorentey , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 21 15:16:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hq7kN-0006X1-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 15:16:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq7kN-0003pQ-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq7je-0003X2-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq7jd-0003Wi-UU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq7jd-0003We-Qq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:37 -0400 Original-Received: from 191.red-83-44-183.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.44.183.191] helo=alfajor.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq7ja-0003o1-4y; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 981771C658; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <858xbjq320.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun\, 20 May 2007 11\:04\:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71500 Archived-At: >>> Which is easier if `initial-environment' is called >>> `process-environment'... >> Well, the opposite is true for existing code that adds stuff to >> `process-environment'. I believe such code is a lot more >> widespread. > If the way this addition is done is by virtue of "setenv", we can > cater for it. I was thinking of (let ((process-environment (cons FOO process-environment))) > As written in a separate posting: I'd prefer not to have different > notions of terminal-local and client-local. Yes, the argument made sense. I think we had better try to stick to only one such notion. Since we already have the notion of terminal, we should just stick with it. We will probably want to define that we can have two different "pty1" terminals (corresponding to two different emacclient sessions). I think it'd be more difficult to do the same with machine:0.0 displays, but if we want and can do that, I don't see why I'd oppose it. Stefan