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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mail mode vs message mode
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:47:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvaay6931a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87my2aoyaz.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:43:48 +0900")

>>>> (defcustom message-foo
>>>> (let ((def mail-foo))
>>>> (if (acceptable def) def fallback))
>>>> ...)
>>> That kind of defeats the purpose.
>> Why?

> Isn't the entire purpose of using a default value of `mail-foo' to pick
> up any user customizations of mail-foo in .emacs (otherwise it'd be easy
> enough to just use a literal "> " as a default for message-yank-prefix)?

> So if the user sets mail-yank-prefix to "   ", but your (acceptable ...)
> test rejects that because it looks wrong, then the purpose has (to some
> extent) been defeated...

Clearly, we'd want the `acceptable' test to only reject the few default
settings of previous Emacsen that are not acceptable and accept
anything else.  So we'd only ignore user's configurations if they have
their mail-foo var customized to one of those older default values.

For those, they'll have to set message-foo explicitly instead.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-28 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-15 21:22 Mail mode vs message mode Chong Yidong
2009-11-15 22:55 ` Xavier Maillard
2009-11-16  2:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-16  9:56     ` Xavier Maillard
2009-11-17  1:14       ` Miles Bader
2009-11-17 22:59         ` Xavier Maillard
2009-11-16  4:57   ` Miles Bader
2009-11-17 16:51 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-17 21:10   ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-18 16:53     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-18 19:20       ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-19 14:56         ` Teemu Likonen
2009-11-19 16:53         ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-20  0:07           ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2009-11-22 15:55             ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-24  9:19               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2009-11-25 21:40                 ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-25 23:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-25 23:13                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-26  1:27                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26  1:43                         ` Miles Bader
2009-11-28 13:47                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-11-27  8:41                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2009-11-27 14:51                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-29  0:32                       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2009-11-29 18:49                         ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-30  0:00                           ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2009-11-22 15:55           ` Reiner Steib

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