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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Get a command by its keybinding and also respecting key translation
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:16:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvaak3t5zx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012142351.21774.tassilo@member.fsf.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:51:21 +0100")

>> > (define-context-key outline-minor-mode-map
>> >   (kbd "<tab>")
>> >   th-outline-context-p
>> >   org-cycle)
>> 
>> You can do it this way:
>> 
>> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map
>> (kdb "<tab>")
>> `(menu-item "dummy" org-cycle
>> :filter ,(lambda (cmd)
>> (if (th-outline-context-p) cmd))))

> Hm, just for educational purposes, could you please explain the
> backquoting and the comma-substitution of the lambda?  I mean, I know
> that `,' in a backquote triggers evaluation, but since a lambda evals to
> itself, what's the point in doing so?

Without backquote and comma, the whole menu-item is just a piece of data
which happens to contain something that looks like a function.
With the backquote and comma, it turns into something that contains
a function, so tools can handle this `lambda' knowing that it *is*
a function (e.g. it can be byte-compiled, can cause warnings if it uses
obsolete functions, can be macro-expanded, ...).

Try to byte-compile

   (equal '(lambda () (foo (bar a b c)))
          (lambda () (foo (bar a b c))))

to see what I mean.  In the presence of lexical-scoping the difference
will be present even without byte-compiling.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-18 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-13 18:57 Get a command by its keybinding and also respecting key translation Tassilo Horn
2010-12-14 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-14 22:51   ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-18 16:16     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-12-20  8:19       ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-20 10:09         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-12-20 10:19           ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-20 10:35             ` David Kastrup
2010-12-20 11:10               ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-20 11:30                 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-12-15  8:21   ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-15 15:27     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-15 15:30       ` Davis Herring
2010-12-15 21:20         ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-15 22:03       ` Get a command by its keybinding and also respecting keytranslation Drew Adams
2010-12-15 22:17         ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-15 22:39           ` Drew Adams
2010-12-18 16:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-18 16:23     ` Get a command by its keybinding and also respecting key translation Stefan Monnier

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