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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Pretest begins end-June
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:43:39 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvaae1l4yy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DE68E0E.5030909@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:07:58 +0200")

>> Let me put the question differently:
>> *how* can we support code that rebinds pop-up-frames?
> It's a bit like having the cake and eating it too.

Yup.

>> Case 1 is easy (set the default value to `unset' and you're done).
> I'm not 100% sure whether this could lead to difficulties (IIUC I would

Neither am I, but we know that doing nothing will also lead to difficulties.

>> Case 3 doesn't sound too hard; IIUC it involves losing some
>> functionality but that functionality is absent from Emacs-23 anyway.
>> Do we really need to solve case 2?  Probably not.

> Suppose a user has set `split-height-threshold' to some value for use in
> Emacs 23 and in Emacs 24 wants to use a new functionality of
> `display-buffer-alist' say apply `fit-window-to-buffer' for adjusting
> the window height.  What shall `display-buffer' do?  Respect the value
> of `split-height-threshold'?  Adjust the height of the window?  Do both?

fir-window-to-buffer is unlikely to be something that you want to apply
to *all* cases, so if set it should take precedence over
split-height-threshold which is meant as a default behavior.

> I think I won't have great problems providing an acceptable heuristic
> for `pop-up-frames'.  But I'm afraid that packages outside Emacs have
> some very unknown cases in store for me.

As I said: not doing anything is guaranteed to bring us problems, so
even if the heuristic doesn't solve all cases, it should not be too hard
to come up with one that solves more problems than it introduces.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-01 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-30 16:07 Pretest begins end-June Chong Yidong
2011-05-30 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-30 19:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 21:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-30 22:31       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31  6:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31 12:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:05             ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-31  7:50       ` David Kastrup
2011-05-31  9:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31  9:11           ` David Kastrup
2011-05-31  9:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04  7:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 12:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31  5:23     ` Kenichi Handa
2011-05-31  7:44     ` David Kastrup
2011-06-01  9:15 ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 12:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 14:07     ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 14:41       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 15:25         ` Drew Adams
2011-06-01 15:58           ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 17:10             ` Drew Adams
2011-06-01 18:13               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 19:08               ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 15:58         ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 16:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 19:07             ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 19:43               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-06-02  8:28                 ` martin rudalics
2011-06-01 15:21       ` Drew Adams
2011-06-02  8:27         ` martin rudalics
2011-06-11 18:53   ` window-safely-shrinkable-p [was Re: Pretest begins end-June] Glenn Morris
2011-06-11 20:44     ` martin rudalics
2011-06-11 22:18       ` window-safely-shrinkable-p Glenn Morris
2011-06-12  8:45         ` window-safely-shrinkable-p martin rudalics
2011-06-12  3:29       ` window-safely-shrinkable-p [was Re: Pretest begins end-June] Stefan Monnier
2011-06-12  8:45         ` martin rudalics
2011-06-14  3:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-08  3:31 ` 23.4 " Glenn Morris
2011-06-08 15:35   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-08 19:21     ` Daniel Colascione
2011-06-09  4:15       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-13 16:29 ` Pretest begins end-June Dan Nicolaescu
2011-06-13 17:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-13 21:37   ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-14  2:58   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-15 14:58     ` deriving from prog-mode (was: Re: Pretest begins end-June) Dan Nicolaescu
2011-06-18 16:26       ` deriving from prog-mode Chong Yidong
2011-06-19  5:59         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-06-20  1:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-26 20:45             ` Chong Yidong

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