From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13863: 24.2; Cursor position after after-string on overlay at point-max Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83mwuktc36.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362433429 19986 80.91.229.3 (4 Mar 2013 21:43:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13863@debbugs.gnu.org To: Magnar Sveen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 04 22:44:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdB6-00051E-IX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:44:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56971 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAl-0006Jv-3x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60329) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAh-0006Je-2G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAg-0004cu-4E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:47 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAg-0004co-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAw-0000rp-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:44:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13863 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13863-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13863.13624334183298 (code B ref 13863); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13863) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2013 21:43:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAY-0000r9-4j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:38 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:64509) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UCdAW-0000qv-G6 for 13863@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:43:36 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLvL/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLvL/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="3017149" Original-Received: from 69-196-187-203.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.187.203]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Mar 2013 16:43:06 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4CEC46BF75; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:43:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Magnar Sveen's message of "Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:31:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:72096 Archived-At: > Normally I'd say that something always having been like that, is not a > good argument against fixing unintuitive and buggy behavior. However, in > the case of Emacs and its exceedingly large code base and dependents, I > see greater value in backwards compatibility. Actually, I don't think backward compatibility is a big issue in this case. The more real problem is that it's difficult to fix: IIRC last time I looked at this code, at the point where the cursor is displayed, we don't have easy access to the needed info (we have access to the sequence of displayed chars, and their provenance, but their provenance only says "this (after) string" without any reference to the corresponding overlay). Stefan