From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: EIEIO with lexical scoping Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:47:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <51917EA1.50403@siege-engine.com> <87hai5z4ud.fsf@engster.org> <87wqqcv4uh.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370206966 7096 80.91.229.3 (2 Jun 2013 21:02:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 21:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric M. Ludlam" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 02 23:02:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UjFQL-0005M7-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 23:02:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UjFQK-0000f7-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:02:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UjFQH-0000ew-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UjFQH-0004Gt-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:02:41 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:50134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UjFQG-0004Gl-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r52L2d17026639; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0DB9B66107; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:47:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wqqcv4uh.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:45:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4597=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4597> : streams <972892> : uri <1436925> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160008 Archived-At: > Eric's work on EIEIO is now in Emacs. The test suite did run fine, but > it might still be that stuff breaks. Great, thanks. > For instance, I had to change registry.el in Gnus, which for some > reason had all 'defmethod' calls wrapped in 'eval-and-compile', which > does not compile anymore. I don't know why, though; you probably > do. ;-) I don't either, actually. In a some related vein. I remember discussions to take EIEIO out of CEDET, (i.e. use Emacs's built-in eieio for recent Emacsen, and distribute a separate eieio package for people who want to use CEDET on older Emacsen). I'd welcome such a move. IOW for me, the earlier the better. Stefan