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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 15312@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com
Subject: bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:28:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwva9jgpua2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83six8hfvl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:59:26 +0300")

> Sorry, I'm still in the dark.  Does the code presented in
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15312#11 work correctly
> and as expected, or does it not?

AFAICT, yes, it works fine.  The problem is one of documentation.

>> Clearly, this disagrees with:
>> ,----  (info "(elisp) Not Intervals")
>> | "What are the properties of this character?"  So we have decided these
>> | are the only questions that make sense; we have not implemented asking
>> | questions about where intervals start or end.
>> `----
>> And actually the above text is incorrect/incomplete in the sense that
>> next-single-property-change clearly implements a functionality that lets
>> you "ask questions about where intervals start or end".
> Actually, it doesn't disagree, if you keep in mind what RMS meant when
> he wrote that text (intervals can and do overlap, while runs of text
> properties cannot).

Right.  But it just goes to show that the situation is more subtle.
We should describe it more fully.

> But IMO that is a completely different issue.

IMO it is this exact issue.

Jambunathan wrote:
>    (mapc
>     (lambda (s)
>       (insert (propertize s  'mouse-face font-lock-comment-face)))
>     '("ab" "cd"))

you mean
     
    (dolist (s '("ab" "cd"))
      (insert (propertize s  'mouse-face font-lock-comment-face)))

> The intention of the programmer in the above case MAY have been to treat
> "ab" and "cd" differently.  
> But the way Emacs deals with them, it considers "abcd" as a single
> stretch and they are highlighted together.

Yes, exactly.  If you want them to appear separate you need to arrange
for the value to be non-eq, e.g.:

    (dolist (s '("ab" "cd"))
      (insert (propertize s  'mouse-face (list font-lock-comment-face))))


-- Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-13 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-09 13:34 bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect Jambunathan K
2013-09-09 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-10  3:33   ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10  3:40     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 15:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-11  9:55       ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 13:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13  5:22           ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-13  6:15             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-13  8:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 10:28                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-13 13:12               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-13 13:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 15:15                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-13 15:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 16:28                       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-09-13 16:42                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-13 16:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 17:18                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-13 19:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 20:32                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-14  6:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-16 16:15                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-16 17:10                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 16:20                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-13 16:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 17:19                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-13 19:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13 20:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-14  6:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-13  8:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-14  6:35               ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-15  5:04 ` Jambunathan K

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