From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:45:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386006338 24880 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2013 17:45:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 18:45:43 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VnXYz-0002YY-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:45:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38144 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnXYy-0002EC-SG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:45:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55403) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnXYm-0002E6-0P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:45:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnXYe-00078B-C3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:45:27 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:21743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnXYe-00077z-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:45:20 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpY5e/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2NH4NrA4hhnBmBXoMVgVE X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpY5e/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2NH4NrA4hhnBmBXoMVgVE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="40920063" Original-Received: from 69-165-142-94.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.142.94]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Dec 2013 12:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1860362D4B; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:45:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Tom's message of "Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:09:07 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166016 Archived-At: > Which builtin packages would you say are good candidates for > this? They should be complex enough to require most of the usual > supporting packages (like mail, diff, url, w3m, etc.) with them. > Gnus? > Org? > Semantic? > Ediff? > Can we come up with a good set of this packages which would drag > in most of the usual supporting stuff with them when they are > required? Maybe we should look at it the other way: what do we want to use this for? IIUC the idea was to try and decide what features to enable by default. So, how can we recognize a "feature to enable"? Major modes associated to file names don't really fit our needs, for example. Applications like Gnus, Ediff, or Org don't either. Stefan