From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: disabling undo boundaries Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fv746rd5.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87y4kkkzlo.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87mw0zk7yp.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87617mgp1b.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <871ti9ammc.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <878ucaqm3g.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87y4hrm911.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87wpx79pz6.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87pp2wmpxy.fsf@russet.org.uk> <878u9kcsot.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbcnh4sp.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439414132 4648 80.91.229.3 (12 Aug 2015 21:15:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 12 23:15:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPdMp-0002ai-I4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:15:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40191 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPdMo-00072Y-Ly for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54097) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPdMk-00072O-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPdMh-0000gY-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:56746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPdMh-0000fn-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.DIT.UMontreal.CA (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t7CLF4CT001519; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D192A66132; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:15:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87vbcnh4sp.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:27:18 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV5396=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5396> : inlines <3624> : streams <1487346> : uri <2012679> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188767 Archived-At: > My own feeling is that undo-boundaries should be the task of the mode > author, with sensible default behaviour (like the current one) for > user-centric modes (i.e. non process buffers). In 99.9% of the cases, authors don't want to know about undo boundaries, they should "just work", so the default is very important. Stefan