From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27177: 26.0.50: Macroexpanding cl-loop and friends (make-symbol usage) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:20:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8737bk8vba.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw40y48h.fsf@drachen> <87shjk7doq.fsf@gmail.com> <87poeoy0zk.fsf@drachen> <87lgpc79e1.fsf@gmail.com> <87inkfrrvv.fsf@drachen> <877f0v80fu.fsf@gmail.com> <87poekvbuj.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496722937 19628 195.159.176.226 (6 Jun 2017 04:22:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 04:22:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 27177@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Alex Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 06 06:22:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dI60S-0004p5-Vd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 06:22:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI60Y-00022t-8Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:22:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41129) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI60L-00022m-Sv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:22:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI60I-0002OW-JJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:22:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55720) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI60I-0002OQ-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dI60I-000436-7n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 04:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27177 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27177-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27177.149672286215497 (code B ref 27177); Tue, 06 Jun 2017 04:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27177) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2017 04:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dI5zK-00041p-7J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:12039) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dI5zH-000414-57 for 27177@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:21:00 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DKAgAFLTZZ/3qLCkxdGgEBAQECAQEBAQgBAQEBg1hChFKLWpEPKwFGlx2GHgQCAoMHRBQBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUZAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSKNQivUIwDAQEBAQYCJohBgmw0il0BBJ40njCGfpMdgUQ2IYEKMCEIMIdoJIlgAQEB X-IPAS-Result: A0DKAgAFLTZZ/3qLCkxdGgEBAQECAQEBAQgBAQEBg1hChFKLWpEPKwFGlx2GHgQCAoMHRBQBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUZAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSKNQivUIwDAQEBAQYCJohBgmw0il0BBJ40njCGfpMdgUQ2IYEKMCEIMIdoJIlgAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.39,304,1493697600"; d="scan'208";a="314543750" Original-Received: from 76-10-139-122.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.139.122]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 06 Jun 2017 00:20:52 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C38106661B; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 00:20:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87poekvbuj.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex's message of "Sat, 03 Jun 2017 18:24:36 -0600") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133337 Archived-At: > I've browsed around for a few common loop implementations and they all > use gensym (CCL uses gentemp) and descriptive naming: gensym is the indeed what is commonly used in Common-Lisp, whereas make-symbol is what is commonly used in ELisp. > I also found a CHICKEN Scheme egg for CL's loop, and it uses gensym (but > generic names, unfortunately). Does Scheme have make-symbol or something equivalent? > If there's a good reason to not use gensym, then that's fine, but if the > problem is easy enough to work around (perhaps per-expansion counter so > that it will never realistically hit most-positive-fixnum), then I think > cl-loop should use it. I'd prefer to solve it in the printer, but that's just my opinion. FWIW, I've found print-gensym to be sufficient. Stefan